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ON ALL THINGS AMAZON, AND KIM WEHLE FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. WEHLE FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY. ATTORNEY. DYLAN, WE GOT TO START WITH YOU. DYLAN, WE GOT TO START WITH YOU. WHAT COULD BE SO DAMAGING THAT WHAT COULD BE SO DAMAGING THAT AMI WOULD RESORT TO A APPARENT AMI WOULD RESORT TO A APPARENT BLACKMAIL TO END BEZOS’S BLACKMAIL TO END BEZOS’S INVESTIGATION AND PRESUMABLY INVESTIGATION AND PRESUMABLY KEEPING HIM FROM FINDING OUT HOW KEEPING HIM FROM FINDING OUT HOW EXACTLY THEY GOT THESE TEXTS? EXACTLY THEY GOT THESE TEXTS? >> THAT REALLY IS THE QUESTION >> THAT REALLY IS THE QUESTION BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN JEFF BEZOS’S POST ARE PRETTY JEFF BEZOS’S POST ARE PRETTY DETAILED LETTERS SHOWING WHAT DETAILED LETTERS SHOWING WHAT AMI ALLEGEDLY HAD ON HIM, THE AMI ALLEGEDLY HAD ON HIM, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT MIGHT JEFF QUESTION IS, WHAT MIGHT JEFF BEZOS HAVE KNOWN, WHAT MIGHT HE BEZOS HAVE KNOWN, WHAT MIGHT HE HAVE HAD GOING AFTER HOW AMI GOT HAVE HAD GOING AFTER HOW AMI GOT A HOLD OF THESE INFORMATION, A HOLD OF THESE INFORMATION, THESE PHOTOS AND TEXTS THAT THEY THESE PHOTOS AND TEXTS THAT THEY FOUND SO DAMNING AND ON TOP OF FOUND SO DAMNING AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHY ARE THEY CONTINUING TO THAT, WHY ARE THEY CONTINUING TO GO AFTER JEFF BEZOS AFTER DAVID GO AFTER JEFF BEZOS AFTER DAVID PECKER, THE CHAIRMAN OF AMI, HAS PECKER, THE CHAIRMAN OF AMI, HAS ALREADY COPPED TO PARTICIPATING ALREADY COPPED TO PARTICIPATING IN CATCH AND KILL STORIES WITH IN CATCH AND KILL STORIES WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP TO THE JUSTICE PRESIDENT TRUMP TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT? DEPARTMENT? THERE’S NO QUESTION THAT THE THERE’S NO QUESTION THAT THE SCRUTINY IS ALREADY THERE, SO SCRUTINY IS ALREADY THERE, SO WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? THAT INDEED IS THE QUESTION. THAT INDEED IS THE QUESTION. WHAT DO THEY HAVE? WHAT DO THEY HAVE? THIS WHOLE STORY AS YOU JUST THIS WHOLE STORY AS YOU JUST LAID IT OUT SO FASCINATING LAID IT OUT SO FASCINATING BECAUSE WHAT YOU EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE WHAT YOU EFFECTIVELY HAVE IS YOU HAVE BEZOS, THE HAVE IS YOU HAVE BEZOS, THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN THE WORLD, THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN THE WORLD, THE FOUNDER OF AMAZON GOING FROM FOUNDER OF AMAZON GOING FROM BEING THIS PUNCHLINE OF THIS BEING THIS PUNCHLINE OF THIS SORTED AFFAIR THAT EITHER SORTED AFFAIR THAT EITHER DESTROYED HIS MARRIAGE OR DESTROYED HIS MARRIAGE OR HASTENED THE DESTRUCTION OF HIS HASTENED THE DESTRUCTION OF HIS MARRIAGE, CAST HIM IN A VERY MARRIAGE, CAST HIM IN A VERY NEGATIVE AND SCANDALOUS LIGHT, NEGATIVE AND SCANDALOUS LIGHT, FLIPPING THAT SCRIPT OVER NIGHT FLIPPING THAT SCRIPT OVER NIGHT TO ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMING PRAISED AS A HERO OF JOURNALISM PRAISED AS A HERO OF JOURNALISM WHO IS INDICTING THE AMERICAN WHO IS INDICTING THE AMERICAN CULTURE AND REALLY RECASTING CULTURE AND REALLY RECASTING HIMSELF AS PART OF THAT LARGER HIMSELF AS PART OF THAT LARGER NARRATIVE OF THE “THE WASHINGTON NARRATIVE OF THE “THE WASHINGTON POST” AND THE MEDIA STANDING UP POST” AND THE MEDIA STANDING UP AGAINST THAT SORTED KIND OF AGAINST THAT SORTED KIND OF JOURNALISM. JOURNALISM. >> AS A SOURCE CLOSE TO BEZOS >> AS A SOURCE CLOSE TO BEZOS TOLD ME LAST NIGHT, DO NOT POKE TOLD ME LAST NIGHT, DO NOT POKE THIS BEZOS BEAR. THIS BEZOS BEAR. KIM, TO ME IT’S NOT A SURPRISE KIM, TO ME IT’S NOT A SURPRISE HOW DAVID PECKER RUNS HIS HOW DAVID PECKER RUNS HIS BUSINESS. BUSINESS. WE’VE KNOWN THIS IS HOW THE WE’VE KNOWN THIS IS HOW THE ENQUIRER OPERATES FOR YEARS, BUT ENQUIRER OPERATES FOR YEARS, BUT IT SEEMS INCREDIBLY RECKLESS TO IT SEEMS INCREDIBLY RECKLESS TO PUT THESE THREATS IN AN EMAIL PUT THESE THREATS IN AN EMAIL GIVEN THAT THERE’S A DEAL THAT GIVEN THAT THERE’S A DEAL THAT WAS MADE WITH FEDERAL WAS MADE WITH FEDERAL PROSECUTORS? PROSECUTORS? >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. THE COOPERATION DEAL HAD TO DO THE COOPERATION DEAL HAD TO DO WITH THE QUID PRO QUO TO SILENCE WITH THE QUID PRO QUO TO SILENCE A WOMAN WHO HAD HAD A A WOMAN WHO HAD HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT, RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT, KAREN McDOUGAL AND THEY KAREN McDOUGAL AND THEY ESSENTIALLY AGREED, LISTEN, DOJ ESSENTIALLY AGREED, LISTEN, DOJ SAID WE’RE NOT GOING TO SAID WE’RE NOT GOING TO PROSECUTE YOU FOR THE RELATED PROSECUTE YOU FOR THE RELATED ELECTION AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE ELECTION AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS WITH THIS IF YOU VIOLATIONS WITH THIS IF YOU COOPERATE AND THE AGREEMENT IS COOPERATE AND THE AGREEMENT IS VERY CLEAR. VERY CLEAR. THE DEAL IS COMPLETELY OFF IF THE DEAL IS COMPLETELY OFF IF YOU ENGAGE HAD ANY CRIMES YOU ENGAGE HAD ANY CRIMES WHATSOEVER. WHATSOEVER. WE DON’T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY WE DON’T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY CRIMES HERE. CRIMES HERE. POSSIBLY IF THE INFORMATION MR. POSSIBLY IF THE INFORMATION MR. BEZOS’S PRIVATE INFORMATION WAS BEZOS’S PRIVATE INFORMATION WAS HACKED, THAT’S CERTAINLY A HACKED, THAT’S CERTAINLY A CRIME, AND THERE’S SOME TALK CRIME, AND THERE’S SOME TALK ABOUT EXTORTION. ABOUT EXTORTION. THAT’S ANOTHER QUESTION OF THE THAT’S ANOTHER QUESTION OF THE WHETHER THERE’S ELEMENTS OR WHETHER THERE’S ELEMENTS OR FACTS GETTING RISE TO THAT. FACTS GETTING RISE TO THAT. THE NOTION THAT THEY HAVE THIS THE NOTION THAT THEY HAVE THIS AGREEMENT, THE JUSTICE AGREEMENT, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS — HAS THEM UNDER DEPARTMENT IS — HAS THEM UNDER SCRUTINY, THE NOOSE WAS AROUND SCRUTINY, THE NOOSE WAS AROUND THEIR NECK AND THEY’RE THEIR NECK AND THEY’RE NONETHELESS ENGAGING IN NONETHELESS ENGAGING IN PROBLEMATIC, AT THE LEAST TYPE PROBLEMATIC, AT THE LEAST TYPE COMMUNICATIONS WITH A TITAN OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH A TITAN OF THE MEDIA OR AMAZON TITAN. THE MEDIA OR AMAZON TITAN. IT’S REALLY QUITE DANGEROUS AND IT’S REALLY QUITE DANGEROUS AND SO THE QUESTION ARISES WHY, WHY SO THE QUESTION ARISES WHY, WHY PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE IN THIS PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE IN THIS WAY? WAY? WHAT KIND OF POLITICALLY WHAT KIND OF POLITICALLY MOTIVATED CHARGES AGAINST AMI MOTIVATED CHARGES AGAINST AMI WOULD BEZOS ALLEGEDLY HAVE WOULD BEZOS ALLEGEDLY HAVE GIVEN? GIVEN? >> WE SHOULD REMIND OUR >> WE SHOULD REMIND OUR AUDIENCE, AMI DOES NOT OWN THE AUDIENCE, AMI DOES NOT OWN THE NATIONAL ENQUI THEY OWN US NATIONAL ENQUI THEY OWN US WEEKLY.” WEEKLY.” THE FIRST WEEK DAVID PECKER HAD THE FIRST WEEK DAVID PECKER HAD EDITORIAL CONTROL OF US WEEKLY, EDITORIAL CONTROL OF US WEEKLY, THAT FIRST ISSUE HAD A GLOWING THAT FIRST ISSUE HAD A GLOWING LIFESTYLE ARTICLE ABOUT IVANKA LIFESTYLE ARTICLE ABOUT IVANKA TRUMP AND SINCE HAS HAD MANY, TRUMP AND SINCE HAS HAD MANY, MANY ARTICLES ABOUT THE TRUMP MANY ARTICLES ABOUT THE TRUMP FAMILY AND THEIR LIFESTYLE. FAMILY AND THEIR LIFESTYLE. SCOTT, YOU TWEETED LAST NIGHT SCOTT, YOU TWEETED LAST NIGHT SPEAKING OF THE PRESIDENT, THAT SPEAKING OF THE PRESIDENT, THAT YOU BELIEVE HE IS DIRECTLY YOU BELIEVE HE IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THIS. INVOLVED IN THIS. WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT BUT WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT BUT CLEARLY IT’S ON YOUR MIND. CLEARLY IT’S ON YOUR MIND. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. AND TO BE CLEAR IT’S PURE AND TO BE CLEAR IT’S PURE SPECULATION. SPECULATION. A KEY TELL AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT A KEY TELL AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS IS WHEN SOMEONE IS OFFICIALS IS WHEN SOMEONE IS DRIVING 45 MILES AN HOUR IN THE DRIVING 45 MILES AN HOUR IN THE FAST LANE THAT THEY’RE HIDING FAST LANE THAT THEY’RE HIDING SOMETHING. SOMETHING. THE PRESIDENT’S SILENCE ON THIS THE PRESIDENT’S SILENCE ON THIS IS EERIE. IS EERIE. HE TWEETED ABOUT BEZOS CALLING HE TWEETED ABOUT BEZOS CALLING HIM BOW ZOE JANUARY 4th BUT THIS HIM BOW ZOE JANUARY 4th BUT THIS IS SOMEONE WHO NEVER MISSES AN IS SOMEONE WHO NEVER MISSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOCK SOMEONE HE OPPORTUNITY TO MOCK SOMEONE HE PERCEIVES AS AN ADVERSARY VIA PERCEIVES AS AN ADVERSARY VIA TWITTER AND HE HASN’T SAID TWITTER AND HE HASN’T SAID ANYTHING AND I THINK THAT’S — ANYTHING AND I THINK THAT’S — THAT’S A TELL HERE AND LIKE WITH THAT’S A TELL HERE AND LIKE WITH A FACEBOOK HACK OR ANY SCANDAL A FACEBOOK HACK OR ANY SCANDAL INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT, THE INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT, THE ONLY THING WE KNOW FOR SURE IS ONLY THING WE KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT IT’S ALMOST WORSER, ALWAYS THAT IT’S ALMOST WORSER, ALWAYS WORSE THAN WE ORIGINALLY WORSE THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. THOUGHT. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST STORIES OF 2019 OF THE BIGGEST STORIES OF 2019 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CARDS AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CARDS STILL TO BE TURNED OVER HERE. STILL TO BE TURNED OVER HERE. PUT ANOTHER WAY? PUT ANOTHER WAY? THE PRESIDENT AND AMI ARE BOTH THE PRESIDENT AND AMI ARE BOTH ACTING LIKE GUILTY PARTIES RIGHT ACTING LIKE GUILTY PARTIES RIGHT NOW. NOW. >> ACTING. >> ACTING. I WANT TO BRING MY PANEL IN RICK I WANT TO BRING MY PANEL IN RICK TYLER AND MARK THOMPSON. TYLER AND MARK THOMPSON. RICK, YOU KNOW AMI AND THE RICK, YOU KNOW AMI AND THE “NATIONAL ENQUIRER,” YOU WORKED “NATIONAL ENQUIRER,” YOU WORKED WITH TED CRUZ AND IT WAS THE WITH TED CRUZ AND IT WAS THE “NATIONAL ENQUIRER” THAT WAS “NATIONAL ENQUIRER” THAT WAS GOING HARD AFTER TED CRUZ WITH GOING HARD AFTER TED CRUZ WITH THE RIDICULOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY THE RIDICULOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT HIS OWN FATHER WAS TIED TO THAT HIS OWN FATHER WAS TIED TO THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK. THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK. CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR EXPERIENCE CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR EXPERIENCE OR WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS OR WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION? ORGANIZATION? >> WHAT’S AT STAKE HERE, WHAT >> WHAT’S AT STAKE HERE, WHAT BEZOS IS ESTABLISHING THAT THE BEZOS IS ESTABLISHING THAT THE “NATIONAL ENQUIRER” IS NOT “NATIONAL ENQUIRER” IS NOT LEGITIMATE NEWS. LEGITIMATE NEWS. >> WE KNEW THAT. >> WE KNEW THAT. >> BUT IT’S AN IMPORTANT POINT >> BUT IT’S AN IMPORTANT POINT AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT WHO IS FRIENDS WITH PRESIDENT WHO IS FRIENDS WITH DAVID PECKER AND HE HAS DAVID PECKER AND HE HAS CONSISTENTLY USED THAT TABLOID CONSISTENTLY USED THAT TABLOID TO STRIKE AT HIS POLITICAL TO STRIKE AT HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES, HE DID THAT WITH TED ENEMIES, HE DID THAT WITH TED CRUZ AND HERE HE’S DOING IT WITH CRUZ AND HERE HE’S DOING IT WITH JEFF BEZOS BUT JEFF BEZOS IS NOW JEFF BEZOS BUT JEFF BEZOS IS NOW PUNCHING DOWN BECAUSE HIS LETTER PUNCHING DOWN BECAUSE HIS LETTER IS EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE HE IS EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE HE IMINDICATES NOT ONLY THE IMINDICATES NOT ONLY THE PRESIDENT IN HIS LETTER BUT NOT PRESIDENT IN HIS LETTER BUT NOT DIRECTLY AND HE IMPLICATES THE DIRECTLY AND HE IMPLICATES THE SAUDIS BECAUSE THEY ARE — THEY SAUDIS BECAUSE THEY ARE — THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON YOU WOULD GO TO TO SAY WHERE DID YOU WOULD GO TO TO SAY WHERE DID YOU GET THESE TEXTS? GET THESE TEXTS? IT SEEMS TO BE EITHER FROM THE IT SEEMS TO BE EITHER FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT OR THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT, LIKELY THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT, LIKELY THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT AND THAT’S — THAT’S GOVERNMENT AND THAT’S — THAT’S A BIG — THAT’S A BIG PROBLEM. A BIG — THAT’S A BIG PROBLEM. >> NOT RUSSIA? >> NOT RUSSIA? >> HE DIDN’T — HE DIDN’T >> HE DIDN’T — HE DIDN’T MENTION RUSSIA. MENTION RUSSIA. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT WAS INTERESTING, HE ACTUALLY MADE INTERESTING, HE ACTUALLY MADE HIMSELF INCREDIBLY VULNERABLE HIMSELF INCREDIBLY VULNERABLE AND HE DESCRIBES THE TEXT AND AND HE DESCRIBES THE TEXT AND THE PHOTOS THAT AMI HAS IN THEIR THE PHOTOS THAT AMI HAS IN THEIR POSSESSION BECAUSE ONCE YOU READ POSSESSION BECAUSE ONCE YOU READ THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PHOTOS, THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PHOTOS, NO OFFENSE, JEFF, THERE’S NO NO OFFENSE, JEFF, THERE’S NO REAL MARKET FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, REAL MARKET FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, GEE, I WISH WE COULD SEE THOSE GEE, I WISH WE COULD SEE THOSE PHOTOS. PHOTOS. >> THAT’S NOT TRUE. >> THAT’S NOT TRUE. HOLD ON A SECOND. HOLD ON A SECOND. THERE IS A HUGE MARKET. THERE IS A HUGE MARKET. I’M NOT SAYING A PERSONAL I’M NOT SAYING A PERSONAL INTEREST, WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON INTEREST, WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON DOWN THERE, BUT IT’S A HUGE DOWN THERE, BUT IT’S A HUGE STORY? STORY? >> IT BLUNTS THE WHOLE — THE >> IT BLUNTS THE WHOLE — THE WAY THEY OPERATE. WAY THEY OPERATE. GEE, LOOK AT THIS NOW EVERYBODY GEE, LOOK AT THIS NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY HAVE IT AND THIS IS KNOWS THEY HAVE IT AND THIS IS SORTED. SORTED. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THE PRESIDENT LIKES TO HANG OUT THE PRESIDENT LIKES TO HANG OUT WITH. WITH. >> MY FRIEND STEPHANIE GOSK JUST >> MY FRIEND STEPHANIE GOSK JUST WALKED IN WITH A STATEMENT WALKED IN WITH A STATEMENT RECEIVED FROM AMERICAN MEDIA. RECEIVED FROM AMERICAN MEDIA. WE HADN’T GOTTEN A RESPONSE WE HADN’T GOTTEN A RESPONSE UNTIL NOW. UNTIL NOW. I’LL READ IT TO YOU. I’LL READ IT TO YOU. AMERICAN MEDIA BELIEVES THAT IT AMERICAN MEDIA BELIEVES THAT IT ACTED LAWFULLY IN THE REPORTING ACTED LAWFULLY IN THE REPORTING OF THE STORY OF MR. BEZOS. OF THE STORY OF MR. BEZOS. FURTHER, AT THE TIME OF THE FURTHER, AT THE TIME OF THE RECENT ALLEGATIONS MADE BY MR. RECENT ALLEGATIONS MADE BY MR. BEZOS IT WAS IN GOOD FAITH BEZOS IT WAS IN GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS TO RESOLVE ALL NEGOTIATIONS TO RESOLVE ALL MATTERS WITH HIM. MATTERS WITH HIM. NONETHELESS, IN LIGHT OF THE NONETHELESS, IN LIGHT OF THE NATURE OF THE ALLEGATIONS NATURE OF THE ALLEGATIONS PUBLISHED BY MR. BEZOS, THE PUBLISHED BY MR. BEZOS, THE BOARD HAS CONVENED AND BOARD HAS CONVENED AND DETERMINED THAT IT SHOULD DETERMINED THAT IT SHOULD PROMPTLY AND THOROUGHLY PROMPTLY AND THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THE CLAIMS UPON INVESTIGATE THE CLAIMS UPON COMPLETION OF THAT COMPLETION OF THAT INVESTIGATION, THE BOARD WILL INVESTIGATION, THE BOARD WILL TAKE WHATEVER APPROPRIATE ACTION TAKE WHATEVER APPROPRIATE ACTION IS NECESSARY. IS NECESSARY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT’S A WOW. THAT’S A WOW. FIRST OF ALL, THEY SAY RIGHT OUT FIRST OF ALL, THEY SAY RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, WE STAND BEHIND THE OF THE GATE, WE STAND BEHIND THE REPORTING THAT WE DID. REPORTING THAT WE DID. NO ONE’S DENYING THAT. NO ONE’S DENYING THAT. JEFF BEZOS HAD AN AFFAIR WITH JEFF BEZOS HAD AN AFFAIR WITH THIS WOMAN. THIS WOMAN. HE DIDN’T SAY THAT WASN’T THE HE DIDN’T SAY THAT WASN’T THE CASE. CASE. WE GOT THAT. WE GOT THAT. BUT NOW THE BOARD IS LOOKING BUT NOW THE BOARD IS LOOKING INTO THE CONDUCT OF AMI. INTO THE CONDUCT OF AMI. THAT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS INTERESTING. >> TO THEY HAVE A CHOICE — DO >> TO THEY HAVE A CHOICE — DO THEY HAVE A CHOICE? THEY HAVE A CHOICE? IN A REAL WORLD IN A NORMAL IN A REAL WORLD IN A NORMAL SITUATION, THERE’S SITUATION, THERE’S ACCOUNTABILITY IN A CORPORATION, ACCOUNTABILITY IN A CORPORATION, THERE’S A BOARD. THERE’S A BOARD. IF SOMEONE IS GOING ROGUE LIKE IF SOMEONE IS GOING ROGUE LIKE PECKER IS, ALTHOUGH I FIND IT PECKER IS, ALTHOUGH I FIND IT DOUBTFUL THAT HE HAS A BOARD DOUBTFUL THAT HE HAS A BOARD THAT DOES NOT EXIST OF SINK THAT DOES NOT EXIST OF SINK COFANTS THAT WOULDN’T GO ALONG COFANTS THAT WOULDN’T GO ALONG WITH HIM. WITH HIM. YOUR BOARD SAYS WE’RE GOING TO YOUR BOARD SAYS WE’RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS INDIVIDUAL — LOOK INTO THIS INDIVIDUAL — >> WE DON’T KNOW THAT HE HAS A >> WE DON’T KNOW THAT HE HAS A SINK COFAN TICK BOARD, BECAUSE SINK COFAN TICK BOARD, BECAUSE HE’S EITHER BEEN IN BANKRUPTCY HE’S EITHER BEEN IN BANKRUPTCY OR ON THE VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY OR ON THE VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY MANY TIMES AND THAT COMPANY HAS MANY TIMES AND THAT COMPANY HAS GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF RESCUE GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF RESCUE FINANCING DEALS. FINANCING DEALS. HE MIGHT HAVE A BOARD THAT’S NOT HE MIGHT HAVE A BOARD THAT’S NOT NECESSARILY FRIENDLY. NECESSARILY FRIENDLY. >> MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT HE’S BEEN >> MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT HE’S BEEN DOING — THIS ISN’T — THIS IS DOING — THIS ISN’T — THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE. NOT A SURPRISE. THIS IS WHAT HE DOES. THIS IS WHAT HE DOES. WE’VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY BOARD WE’VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY BOARD THAT’S WORKED WITH HIM THAT HAS THAT’S WORKED WITH HIM THAT HAS LOOKED INTO HIS CONDUCT BEFORE, LOOKED INTO HIS CONDUCT BEFORE, HAVE WE? HAVE WE? >> NO, BUT HIS CONDUCT IN TERMS >> NO, BUT HIS CONDUCT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, TIGER WOODS, OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, TIGER WOODS, I SAW YOU WALKING OUT OF A HOTEL I SAW YOU WALKING OUT OF A HOTEL WITH A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO WITH A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO WASN’T YOUR WIFE, I’D LIKE YOU WASN’T YOUR WIFE, I’D LIKE YOU TO BE ON THE COVER OF MY MEN’S TO BE ON THE COVER OF MY MEN’S MAGAZINE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN MAGAZINE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WORKING WITH THE PRESIDENT IN WORKING WITH THE PRESIDENT IN COVERING UP SOMETHING COVERING UP SOMETHING POTENTIALLY TIED TO WRONGDOING POTENTIALLY TIED TO WRONGDOING IN WINNING AN ELECTION TO BE THE IN WINNING AN ELECTION TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU. I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU. THE FACT THAT JEFF BEZOS WAS NOT THE FACT THAT JEFF BEZOS WAS NOT INFLUENCED BY AMI, HE WAS INFLUENCED BY AMI, HE WAS UNWILLING TO SAY THAT THEIR UNWILLING TO SAY THAT THEIR REPORTING WAS NOT POLITICALLY REPORTING WAS NOT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, WHAT DOES THAT TELL MOTIVATED, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT BEZOS OR “THE YOU ABOUT WHAT BEZOS OR “THE WASHINGTON POST” MIGHT KNOW? WASHINGTON POST” MIGHT KNOW? >> IT TELLS ME THAT HE’S GOING >> IT TELLS ME THAT HE’S GOING TO BE IF HE’S NOT ALREADY AN TO BE IF HE’S NOT ALREADY AN IMPORTANT WITNESS IN THE MUELLER IMPORTANT WITNESS IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION AND PERHAPS INVESTIGATION AND PERHAPS SOMEBODY THAT WOULD TESTIFY IN SOMEBODY THAT WOULD TESTIFY IN CONNECTION WITH THE VARIOUS CONNECTION WITH THE VARIOUS CONGRESSIONAL PROBES THAT ARE CONGRESSIONAL PROBES THAT ARE ONGOING. ONGOING. IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THIS LEVEL OF IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THIS LEVEL OF EXCHANGE, THE NOTION THAT E OH, EXCHANGE, THE NOTION THAT E OH, I’LL COME OUT AND JUST SAY IT I’LL COME OUT AND JUST SAY IT WAS NOT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED — WAS NOT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED — WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? WHY WAS THAT SO, SO IMPORTANT TO WHY WAS THAT SO, SO IMPORTANT TO AMI? AMI? WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE ON IT, BUT WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE ON IT, BUT AS WITH OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS AS WITH OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS SORTED RUSSIA/TRUMP STORY, YOU SORTED RUSSIA/TRUMP STORY, YOU START PULLING THE THREAD AND START PULLING THE THREAD AND MORE AND MORE COMES OUT. MORE AND MORE COMES OUT. IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE FACT IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE FACT THAT MR. BEZOS IS FIGHTING BACK THAT MR. BEZOS IS FIGHTING BACK TO WHAT SOME SCHOLARS HAVE TO WHAT SOME SCHOLARS HAVE CALLED SEX TORTION, THIS IDEA CALLED SEX TORTION, THIS IDEA THAT YOU TAKE TEXTS OR PICTURES, THAT YOU TAKE TEXTS OR PICTURES, YOU HACK THEM OR FIND THEM SOME YOU HACK THEM OR FIND THEM SOME WHERE AND THEN YOU THREATEN WHERE AND THEN YOU THREATEN PEOPLE IN EXCHANGE FOR PEOPLE IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING. SOMETHING. THAT HURTS A LOT OF PEOPLE. THAT HURTS A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT HURTS PEOPLE WITHOUT A LOT OF IT HURTS PEOPLE WITHOUT A LOT OF MONEY AND RESOURCES IN THE WAY MONEY AND RESOURCES IN THE WAY MR. BEZOS HAS. MR. BEZOS HAS. IT’S LED TO SEVERE TRAGEDIES FOR IT’S LED TO SEVERE TRAGEDIES FOR THE IDEA BEING, I’LL BE THE IDEA BEING, I’LL BE HUMILIATED, I’LL BE SHAMED HUMILIATED, I’LL BE SHAMED AND — THAT BIGGER NARRATIVE IS AND — THAT BIGGER NARRATIVE IS PERHAPS AN IMPORTANT ONE. PERHAPS AN IMPORTANT ONE. >> SCOTT, YOU TWEETED — YES? >> SCOTT, YOU TWEETED — YES? >> JUST A QUICK POINT ON THAT. >> JUST A QUICK POINT ON THAT. IT WOULD BE ENOUGH THIS DRAMA IT WOULD BE ENOUGH THIS DRAMA BETWEEN JEFF BEZOS AND DAVID BETWEEN JEFF BEZOS AND DAVID PECKER OVER THE QUESTION OF PECKER OVER THE QUESTION OF EXTORTION AND BLACKMAIL, BUT TO EXTORTION AND BLACKMAIL, BUT TO ME THAT’S THE SECONDARY STORY. ME THAT’S THE SECONDARY STORY. THE BIGGER STORY IS WHAT BEZOS THE BIGGER STORY IS WHAT BEZOS INSIN YATES IN THAT POST WHEN HE INSIN YATES IN THAT POST WHEN HE EFFECTIVELY SUGGESTS THAT EFFECTIVELY SUGGESTS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND/OR SAUDI PRESIDENT TRUMP AND/OR SAUDI ARABIA MIGHT BE BEHIND THE ARABIA MIGHT BE BEHIND THE POLITICAL MOTIVATION FOR GOING POLITICAL MOTIVATION FOR GOING AFTER BEZOS BECAUSE THEY DON’T AFTER BEZOS BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE THE COVERAGE THAT THEY’VE LIKE THE COVERAGE THAT THEY’VE BEEN RECEIVING BY HIS PAPER, BEEN RECEIVING BY HIS PAPER, “THE WASHINGTON POST.” “THE WASHINGTON POST.” NOW THAT’S AN INSINUATION, IT’S NOW THAT’S AN INSINUATION, IT’S NOT AN ALLEGATION. NOT AN ALLEGATION. THERE IS GOING TO BE A SORT OF THERE IS GOING TO BE A SORT OF GREATER FOCUS NOW ON WHAT THOSE GREATER FOCUS NOW ON WHAT THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE AND, IN FACT, CONNECTIONS ARE AND, IN FACT, EARLIER TODAY, FORMER CIA EARLIER TODAY, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN GAVE US A DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN GAVE US A STATEMENT WHICH SAID STATEMENT WHICH SAID EFFECTIVELY, I HAVE NO DOUBT EFFECTIVELY, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT SAUDI ARABIA WOULD WANT TO THAT SAUDI ARABIA WOULD WANT TO EMBARRASS JEFF BEZOS AND HURT EMBARRASS JEFF BEZOS AND HURT HIM FINANCIALLY. HIM FINANCIALLY. I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE FOCUS I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE FOCUS OF THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TO OF THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TO TURN AND TO ME THOSE ARE THE TURN AND TO ME THOSE ARE THE SIGNIFICANT POLITICAL THREATS. SIGNIFICANT POLITICAL THREATS. >> SCOTT, LAST NIGHT YOU TWEETED >> SCOTT, LAST NIGHT YOU TWEETED THAT AMI WENT OUT OF BUSINESS THAT AMI WENT OUT OF BUSINESS LAST NIGHT. LAST NIGHT. THEY JUST DON’T KNOW IT. THEY JUST DON’T KNOW IT. THAT’S A WOW, BUT WHY IS NOW? THAT’S A WOW, BUT WHY IS NOW? WHY THIS? WHY THIS? WHY IS THIS GOING TO PUT THEM WHY IS THIS GOING TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS? OUT OF BUSINESS? THEY HAVE BEEN IN HOT WATER THEY HAVE BEEN IN HOT WATER SINCE THEY WENT INTO SINCE THEY WENT INTO PUBLICATION. PUBLICATION. >> THE SECOND WORSE BUSINESS >> THE SECOND WORSE BUSINESS DECISION OF THE LAST 12 MONTHS DECISION OF THE LAST 12 MONTHS WAS THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN THE WAS THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN THE WORLD DECIDING TO SEND OUT A WORLD DECIDING TO SEND OUT A VERY INTIMATE PHOTOS. VERY INTIMATE PHOTOS. THE WORSE BUSINESS DECISION OF THE WORSE BUSINESS DECISION OF THE LAST 12 MONTHS IN BUSINESS, THE LAST 12 MONTHS IN BUSINESS, WAS A MEDIA COMPANY DECIDING TO WAS A MEDIA COMPANY DECIDING TO ATTEMPT TO EXTORT THE WEALTHIEST ATTEMPT TO EXTORT THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN THE WORLD VIA EMAIL. MAN IN THE WORLD VIA EMAIL. THIS HAS ECHOS OF TEAL VERSUS THIS HAS ECHOS OF TEAL VERSUS GOKER AND IT’S GOING TO HAVE A GOKER AND IT’S GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR OUTCOME. SIMILAR OUTCOME. THE COURTS AND THE PUBLIC ARE THE COURTS AND THE PUBLIC ARE FED UP WITH ORGANIZATIONS FED UP WITH ORGANIZATIONS WRAPPING THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST WRAPPING THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO ENGAGE IN DEPRAVED AMENDMENT TO ENGAGE IN DEPRAVED ACTIVITY. ACTIVITY. THEY HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN THE THEY HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN THE BEST RESOURCE, MOST CREATIVE BEST RESOURCE, MOST CREATIVE MIND IN BUSINESS AND TURNED HIS MIND IN BUSINESS AND TURNED HIS ATTENTION FROM DISRUPTING THE ATTENTION FROM DISRUPTING THE BOOK INDUSTRY TO DESTRUCTION. BOOK INDUSTRY TO DESTRUCTION. THIS IS LITERALLY — THERE IS THIS IS LITERALLY — THERE IS NOW A MEG LA DONE IN THE READS NOW A MEG LA DONE IN THE READS COMING FOR AMI. COMING FOR AMI. THIS WAS A TERRIBLE BUSINESS THIS WAS A TERRIBLE BUSINESS DECISION ON THE PART OF THE DECISION ON THE PART OF THE INDIVIDUALS AT PECKER. INDIVIDUALS AT PECKER. THEY ARE OUT OF BUSINESS. THEY ARE OUT OF BUSINESS. THEY JUST DON’T KNOW IT YET. THEY JUST DON’T KNOW IT YET. >> NOT TO MENTION, WHEN YOU CUT >> NOT TO MENTION, WHEN YOU CUT THAT KIND OF DEAL, YOU ALSO THAT KIND OF DEAL, YOU ALSO AGREE, THE WORRYING IS NOT TO AGREE, THE WORRYING IS NOT TO COMMIT ANY CRIMES. COMMIT ANY CRIMES. >> THINK OF HOW ABSURD IT IS. >> THINK OF HOW ABSURD IT IS. I’VE TALKED TO THOUSANDS OF I’VE TALKED TO THOUSANDS OF REPORTERS ON MANY STORIES THAT I REPORTERS ON MANY STORIES THAT I DIDN’T WANT THEM TO PUBLISH, DIDN’T WANT THEM TO PUBLISH, RIGHT, AND THERE WAS NEVER LIKE RIGHT, AND THERE WAS NEVER LIKE THIS NEGOTIATION, IF YOU GIVE US THIS NEGOTIATION, IF YOU GIVE US THIS, WE WON’T DO THE STORY ON THIS, WE WON’T DO THE STORY ON YOUR CLIENT. YOUR CLIENT. THIS IS NOT THE WAY THE PRESS THIS IS NOT THE WAY THE PRESS SHOULD FUNCTION. SHOULD FUNCTION. IT’S INTERESTING THAT BEZOS WHO IT’S INTERESTING THAT BEZOS WHO OWNS “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS OWNS “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS GOING TO TAKE DOWN AMI. GOING TO TAKE DOWN AMI. >> THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. >> THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. >> HEAVENS TO BETSY. >> HEAVENS TO BETSY. MY GOODNESS. MY GOODNESS. GREAT CONVERSATION. GREAT CONVERSATION. >> STEPHANIE? >> STEPHANIE? >> YES, DYLAN? >> YES, DYLAN? YES? YES? >> THAT WASN’T ME — >> THAT WASN’T ME — >> SCOTT, EXCUSE ME, SCOTT. >> SCOTT, EXCUSE ME, SCOTT. >> JUST REAL QUICK, STEPHANIE, >> JUST REAL QUICK, STEPHANIE, IN YOUR — KIM TOUCHED ON THIS IN YOUR — KIM TOUCHED ON THIS POINT, I’M REALLY HOPING YOU POINT, I’M REALLY HOPING YOU FOLLOW-UP HERE BUT THE BEST FOLLOW-UP HERE BUT THE BEST THING THAT CAN COME OUT OF THIS THING THAT CAN COME OUT OF THIS IS THAT IT CATMAKES A LONGER IS THAT IT CATMAKES A LONGER CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE A DIGITAL CRISIS. DIGITAL CRISIS. JEFF BEZOS KNOWS HE’LL BE OKAY. JEFF BEZOS KNOWS HE’LL BE OKAY. DOES A 15 OR 16-YEAR-OLD BOY OR DOES A 15 OR 16-YEAR-OLD BOY OR GIRL WHO IS SITTING AND GIRL WHO IS SITTING AND STRUGGLING WITH THE MENTAL STRUGGLING WITH THE MENTAL ANGUISH OF A MISTAKE THEY HAVE ANGUISH OF A MISTAKE THEY HAVE MADE, DO THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE MADE, DO THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE OKAY? OKAY? IT IS NO ACCIDENT THAT TEEN IT IS NO ACCIDENT THAT TEEN DEPRESSION IS ESCALATING AND DEPRESSION IS ESCALATING AND SUICIDE AMONG TEEN GIRLS HAS SKY SUICIDE AMONG TEEN GIRLS HAS SKY ROCKETED. ROCKETED. THIS NEEDS TO BE A BIGGER THIS NEEDS TO BE A BIGGER CONVERSATION AROUND THE EMERGING CONVERSATION AROUND THE EMERGING CRISIS IN TEEN DEPRESSION AND CRISIS IN TEEN DEPRESSION AND WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE OUR WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE OUR MISTAKES DIGITALIZED. MISTAKES DIGITALIZED. >> I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR >> I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ENDING OUR SEGMENT ON THAT ENDING OUR SEGMENT ON THAT POWERFUL MOMENT. POWERFUL MOMENT. >> AS A MOTHER OF A 12-YEAR-OLD, >> AS A MOTHER OF A 12-YEAR-OLD, WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN MY

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