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get down a little more about what led to this but just your initial thoughts when you heard about this investigation well I agree anytime you were investigating at any level the president for possible involvement with foreign power in and of itself that’s an important investigation I think however that the New York Times was not real clear on how they explained what was going on this was not a full investigation this is what was called a preliminary inquiry which is very limited in scope and can be opened simply on an allegation which means there it can be opened without any any evidence at all and it has to be closed if nothing is found within six months so it’s not a criminal investigation as people would think of an FBI investigation let’s talk about what led to this investigation it was apparently the interview that Donald Trump gave NBC about why he fired James Comey let’s listen to that now regardless of recommendation I was going to fire a call me knowing there was no good time to do it and in fact when I decided to just do it I said to myself I said you know this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won so that was one of the things the other thing was a letter that President Trump planned to send to Comey which he apparently didn’t do let’s go to you Steve Moore to explain what was it about this investigation and this letter that triggered the FBI what triggered the FBI I believe is the fact that he repeatedly wanted to get at least on paper some type of evidence to support the fact that Comey allegedly told him he wasn’t being investigated for involvement with the Russians and he really wanted this on paper somehow and I can see why that would lead agents to be concerned and to you Steven Holl could the president have unwittingly come under Russia’s influence well sure there’s always a question Natalie as to you know as to whenever somebody is associated with or perhaps the question is you know was this was this person in this case the president United States involved or cooperating with Russia whether it was witting or unwitting and that is probably has important legal distinctions from a counterintelligence perspective though which is a significantly lower bar than a legal bar there have been a lot of in my assessment from a counter televisions perspective there’s been a lot of questionable activities on the part of this president and we’ve we’ve mentioned a couple of them in terms of you know Russia what about the 30,000 emails I hope you find them but if you just look at his performance for example in the Oval Office with Sergey Lavrov the Russian Foreign Minister talking about how he just got rid of Comey that nut that is something that every every American official should know you don’t talk about that kind of dirty laundry in front of an adversarial country and his representatives because it allows them to take advantage of you in a counterintelligence way so legally there’s there’s obviously a lot of thresholds and a lot of Hoops that have to be jumped through before this gets much more serious but already there is significant concerning counterintelligence patterns but I think if that have emerged over these past couple of years and now perhaps they’re beginning to culminate and come together yes and the White House has already issued a statement it’s claiming partisan politics here we go again with Comey does that argument on behalf of the White House have any merit to you Stephen worth well here’s here’s the problem with that and I agree completely with Steve about the the counterintelligence aspect of this the president is acting unwisely in this however when Comey was fired who was in charge and who could have authorized even something as small as a preliminary inquiry against Donald Trump it would have been the acting director Andrew McCabe and the deputy assistant director in charge of counterintelligence struck and so what you have are two people who have been compromised you know you got the not compromised in the in the counterintelligence way but the American people have a compromised trust in them because they were both marched out because of political biases apparently so the problem is you’ve got the fruit of the poisonous tree people are not going to believe an investigation that is opened by those two guys after their boss got fired and so I think it should rightly go to Muller because he apparently doesn’t have that baggage we will continue to watch it it’s a remarkable new development that will follow Steve Moore and Steven Holl we thank you both we appreciate your insights thanks for sure now to the partial US government shutdown it lingers on now officially the longest shutdown in US history and for some 800,000 federal employees it means they’ve been left high and dry hurting now for three weeks and Counting the collateral damage is piling up House Democrats have passed bill after bill to reopen the government and get people back to work but Senate Republicans ridicule those moves as stunts and say they won’t move on anything until President Trump says ok for more here’s CNN’s Caitlin Collins president Trump backing off his threat to declare a national emergency to fund his border wall but we’re not looking to do right now his national emergency the president making that comment during an immigration roundtable at the White House after warnings that he would likely set off a firestorm of critics if he bypassed Congress to build his signature campaign promise though Trump still maintains he can if he wants to Washington is in a deadlock and the White House has started exploring ways to pay for the wall without Congress after talks with Democrats went nowhere the only way you’re gonna stop it the only way to stop it without question is with a very powerful wall despite warnings Trump could face a lengthy legal battle if he did use his emergency powers Senator Lindsey Graham urged him to do so after their meeting tweeting Democrats don’t want to make a deal and will never support a border wall mr. president declare a national emergency now build a wall now that comment despite grim saying last week a national emergency was a quote a fallback position but not all Republicans are on board including Senator Chuck Grassley who said the president should not do it I think it might be a bad precedent this as vice president Mike Pence who has led shut down negotiations on Capitol Hill paid a visit to the Customs and Border Protection headquarters I also know that we do this in the midst of a partial government shutdown that’s no doubt created anxiety for families that are gathered here today making this pledge to the border agents who aren’t getting paid this president and this administration will keep fighting to build the wall and give you the resources and reforms you need to do your job that’s my promise now while declaring a national emergency is it completely off the table sources close to the president say he backed off that idea because he feared the sharp backlash he would get from not only Democrats but Republicans as well who feared that he’d be setting a dangerous precedent now despite a flurry of activity over the last several weekends throughout this shutdown right now CNN is told there are no meetings scheduled between White House officials and congressional staffers over the weekend and they’re essentially going to wait for lawmakers to get back in town Caitlin Collins CNN the White House to get perspective on the shutdown showdown where things stand now let’s bring in dr. Richard Johnson dr. Johnson teaches US politics and international relations at Lancaster University in England joining via Skype from Lancaster angling to have you with us thank you dr. Johnson the shutdown showdown it lingers on but president Trump’s seeming to back down for now on his threat to declare a national emergency to build a border wall that he famously promised that Mexico would pay for admitting that it could get blocked in the courts mr. Trump says that is still an option but he prefers a different path listen it’s the easy way out but Congress should do this this is too simple it’s too basic and Congress should do this if they can’t do it if at some point they just can’t do it this is a 15 minute meeting if they can’t do it I will declare a national emergency I have the absolute right to do it so Richard with both sides still clearly dug in where do you see things going from here well look the president probably does have the right to call a national emergency at least he has the first mover advantage on this president since Woodrow Wilson have declared national emergencies there is a very significant court case in 1952 against President Harry Truman when he tried to nationalize the steel industry in them in the midst of the Korean War and the Supreme Court acted against the president and said he wasn’t allowed to do that but what happened in the 1970s is that Congress passed legislation which the national emergencies act of 1976 which is was meant to constrain the president by requiring the President to provide justification to Congress for for those actions but what it’s actually turned into is it’s actually made it fairly easy for presidents to provide some kind of cursory justification and then and then to carry on now I think if President Trump does it in this case I think he will certainly face legal action but we have to remember that the court has been increasingly tipping in a pro-republican direction under this president and the Supreme Court his majority Republican Court now so I think that you know these dynamics are I think that the president has as you know some room to maneuver with this and that could be concerning for people who are concerned about presidential overreach well a president Trump also now getting credit for what is officially the longest shutdown in US history and what that means in dollars and cents for some hundreds of thousands of federal workers Richard is that many of these people got paychecks showing $0.00 I remember my grandmother’s saying don’t mess with people’s money that’s what’s happening here some of the people affected may have even voted for this president do you think this leaves a lasting mark in the minds of everyday working Americans these people who are getting checks that are worthless I think it’s very concerning and the federal workers are in a fairly weak bargaining position since the taft-hartley Act of 1947 federal workers haven’t been allowed to go on strike there have been incidents where federal workers have effectively gone on strike in 1981 famously 11,000 air traffic controllers went on strike and President Reagan said that was illegal action and was a legal action and he he sacked all of them so they don’t have a huge amount of leverage compared to other workers who might be in a pay dispute with their employer and so really what they have to depend on is public opinion and that’s their safeguard is is to hope that they are able to get the American public onside to place pressure on particularly the president and also Congress to form some sort of agreement because they don’t have that ability themselves to withdraw their labor as part of some kind of strike action this goes to my second my last question here very quickly the Wall Street Journal reporting with the White House Office of Management and Budget is preparing for the possibility that this could go through the end of February well past the president’s upcoming State of the Union address set for January 29th you have Democrats refusing to negotiate and Senate Republicans blocking these appropriations bills that could reopen government do everyday people do they have any leverage here to push these politicians to stop the games was there some interesting polling that’s come out this week you find that 31 percent of Americans only 31 percent support shutting down the federal government for a border war but in majority other Republicans do and that’s a key group to watch but that number is now 58 percent so that’s dropping and I think that’s the key word for the president that he’s keeping his mind on on the other hand so far 2/3 of Americans and that same poll said they haven’t been personally affected by the shutdown but as people stopped seeing their tax rebates they can’t get their passports they can’t get their subsidized lunches for their children food stamps and so on as more and more programs start to run dry I think that that will only not only affect you know the average American but also affect Republican voters and I think that when a majority of Republicans are stopped being in favor of a shutdown then I think you could see the president having to change his mind dr. Richard Johnson with context and perspective thank you thank you we’re following breaking news out of France where authorities are responding to an explosion in central Paris police say the blast was caused by a gas leak at a bakery Saturday morning and official in Paris tells CNN there were victims but so far it’s unclear how many police are saying the explosion is not terror related CNN’s Paris correspondent Melissa Bell joins us now from the area where this happened it must have been a terrifying Saturday morning for people in that neighborhood Melissa that’s right now she I think for anyone who would have been on why she is normally a pretty busy street I’ll just show you behind me the scene now it would have been pretty pretty terrifying stuff you can see there at the end of the street and naturally the fire services who’ve been battling the flames of the fire that followed the explosion for the last couple of hours it now appears to be under control the plumes of smoke that were billowing out of there for much of the last couple of hours have nine now died down but we’ve been hearing a lot more about precisely what happened here before that explosion took place and what I witnesses say is that in fact the fire services were out here about an hour before the explosion took place here’s what one eyewitness who works in a hotel just opposite the bakery in which that explosion took place had to say about what he saw I feel the big pressure came out of me black smoke so I just have time to get down and then turn my head in time and everything I did so I was in panic so fortunately I know so there are a couple of five a couple of hundred firefighters at this scene behind me 100 policemen also trying to deal with the fallout from this explosion and remember Natalie that this is a Saturday morning in Paris and that means that this is another day of yellow vest protests so of course the entire city was full of police men and women trying to ensure the safety of the streets this is an extra thing that they need to deal with this morning you’re absolutely the protesters there the you know they’re in Paris and all of a sudden this happened it must have been quite a jolt that all of a sudden the story switched to this neighborhood but as you said yes people have been injured but no reports of any deaths is that right Melissa that’s right no reports of any deaths for the time being and we have had no official told simply an idea for the interior minister that he expects there to be a lot of people wounded we don’t have any figures for the time being and we don’t know how critically those who were wounded are still so that is one of the questions that we’ll be looking to have answered for the time being though it’s certainly when it comes to the cause of this explosion that is of course the first thing that you wonder when you’re here in Paris given all the terrorist attacks the last few years this was an accidental explosion due to a gas leak but the force of it really for anyone who is in the vicinity of this fairly busy neighborhood of Paris it would have been extremely shocking extremely loud and it did cause a lot of damage nationally all right we appreciate you being there on the scene for us and Melissa bell in Paris thanks Melissa the shutdown showdown some 800,000 federal workers have now gone without pay for three weeks still ahead how the negative impact of the government shutdown is spreading far beyond the affected workers her parents were killed but now Jamie Foxx is reunited with her relatives will tell you how she’s go to survive and escape that’s the variant County Sheriff telling the world how Jamie Claus was found alive after she was kidnapped and her parents murdered in their Wisconsin home 88 days since she disappeared and almost 70 miles away she approached a couple walking their dog when I first saw I said oh you know what as she run away did somebody just dump her off here because she didn’t have coats or gloves or um and then when she told me who she was I figured she must have left in a hurry that woman took Jamie to a nearby home absolutely knew it was her we’ve seen her picture a million times around here she looked exactly the same as she did in her picture a little bit thinner I would say Jeannie walked in and said this is Jamie Clausen call nine-one-one I was in absolute shock that night when one call led police to Jamie Klaus and led them to arrest 21-year old Jake Patterson charged with her kidnapping and with the murder of her parents the authorities say there are no other suspects in cases like this we often need a big break and it was Jamie herself who gave us that break one of the women who helped said Jamie shared details about her captor she said that this person usually hides her or hides her when others are near or when he has to leave the household so many questions remain how did she escape her captor why did Patterson target her in the first place we do believe Jamie was the only target I can tell you that the subject planned his actions and took many proactive steps to hide his identity from law enforcement and the general public for now the family is just glad to have her home it’s been awesome and we we couldn’t net we could have never done it without the community I was pulled over by our local sheriff amazing Kristen Kozinski’s who called Niall and one to tell police that Klaus was alive taught the suspect at a local middle school I don’t really remember a whole lot about Jake I had him as a middle school student in science class very quiet kids smart I don’t really I didn’t really keep up with him after he left Northwood while her aunt shared the family’s relief that our niece had been finally found Oh Jamie aunt Jen can’t wait to come and give you that big hug and hold you tight because we’re not gonna let you go Ryan young Barron County Wisconsin the White House Calls the latest New York Times reporting absurd but there is concern given the fact the FBI launched an investigation concerned about the actions of the US president whether it was a national security risk we’ll have that story of it the unintended consequences of the government shutdown some furloughed workers are beginning to question their career choices as they face a fourth week without pay that the truck administration has a consistent foreign policy and that it is a reliable partner this trip comes after President front shock decision to withdraw US troops from Syria that many allies on edge now for the latest on the Russia probe here in the United States the FBI wanted to know if the actions of the sitting US president threatened national security that according to the New York Times this story started coming out on Friday it reports the FBI investigated whether President Trump was working on behalf of Russia and against American interest the newspaper says investigators were worried about mr. Trump’s behavior days after he fired FBI director James Comey the White House was quick to respond calling the allegations absurd and adding that Comey was fired because he was quote a disgraced partisan hack a bit earlier CNN’s John Berman spoke with adam goldman one of the authors of the news article he explains what touched off the investigation the way these things are supposed to work is we’re not supposed to find out about okay that the FBI investigated somebody there’s a counterintelligence investigation maybe they suspect known individual might be working for Russia they investigate they do quietly and it goes away just like they did with Carter page you know years ago in New York and in so the idea is that you know the FBI can do the investigation nobody hears about it and maybe the person isn’t working for a hostile you know a hostile country and you know that goes Decatur goes on you know in this case everything became public yeah so it was much more it was much more difficult for the FBI to try to do what they needed to do go but now there were a couple of things that that pushed the FBI over the edge and I think it’s been lost on people is that the obstruction in the possible obstruction related to the fire and called me you need an object the obstruction has to have an object and the object was the investigation of the Russia interference in 2016 that is in national security investigation and oh yeah and there were two episodes there were two and remember how chaotic the period was following the firing of James Comey there were two specific episodes that alarmed some of these security officials and FBI agents in the wake of that explain what they were obviously that the firing of Comey and the referencing the rusting investigation and the president letter laying that white comb fired the second ass back to that was the believers the next day they Lester Holt interview on NBC News he says we did it because of Russia and you know the guys watching this and they say what he’s telling us why he did it you know he did this on behalf of Russia and you know within days of that they’ve opened up this you know they’ve opened up this they’ve opened up this there’s multi-tiered investigation as you know that has a criminal act and the counterintelligence aspect to it all right it is important to point out that it’s still unclear if the special counsel is still pursuing that investigation now some 800,000 federal workers they’re left in the lurch millions more Americans also being impacted all because of the partial US government shutdown that is now the longest shutdown in the US history after three weeks without pay many of those workers they are angry and fed up they’re demanding they be allowed to return to work for their pay even people who don’t work for the government are feeling the pain the three-day closure of a concourse at the Miami Airport means people working in food and gift shops there won’t get paid either as one furloughed federal worker tells our Jessica Dean the feeling of helplessness is demoralizing daily routines like helping with homework continue at the Virginia home Joanna McLellan shares with her son and husband but her paychecks have stopped making life far from normal right now it makes you sick it is it’s a pit in your stomach it’s worries it’s just you know emotions and you know you don’t know when when this is all gonna sort itself out McClellan works for the Department of Homeland Security as an analyst and has been furloughed since the government closed December 21st it’s quite possible even if we open this week I don’t see a paycheck before the 1st of February and where’s my rent gonna come from how am I gonna pay my bills for this month her story is a familiar one as some 800,000 federal workers remain either furloughed or working without pay not just in Washington DC but in every state like TSA employees in Portland Oregon my wife is on Social Security so I met for income so missing one paycheck will be a burden on you oh absolutely Coast Guard families into Ohio we’re the only branch of the military that is not guaranteed a paycheck during these times my husband’s and they’re making homemade bread because it’s cheaper than buying a loaf at the store and federal employees in Ogden Utah I have enough for one more mortgage payment and I gotta go to Carmack’s tomorrow and saw my car and then there are federal contractors like Lakeisha grant Shepard who owns a small business employing about two dozen people many of the company’s contracts are with the federal government and currently those invoices aren’t being paid I’m really considering to do our forfeit my salary because in the past I’ve always sort of sacrificed the lamb you know these are my employees I’ve always felt an obligation to them so I would just you know you know bite down and bite you know bear the bullet and just cover them but this time it’s different grant Shepard is expecting her first baby in March you know I finally thought I was in a position where we were okay enough you know where I could have a child and surprise it’s truly something out of our control out of their control but impacting them deeply you know we work really hard you know DHS CBP TSA all these agencies because we want to you know support our country we’re patriotic Americans you know we want to make sure that our country is safe and all that but when we’re told you know oh well your your unnecessary just go ahead and go home you’re gonna be furloughed like it’s a that’s a big hit to your morale and it you know it really makes you question like you know why am I doing this again thanks to Jessica Dean for that reporting so many stories and they’re going to keep going as the government remains shut down Democrats are gearing up for the 2020 presidential race and several are already throwing their names in the ring House Representative Tulsi Gabbard told CNN’s Van Jones she has decided to run Gabbard is an Iraq war veteran and serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee she joins a fairly deep pool of the who are considering runs like former Housing and Urban Development secretary Julian Castro he’s expected to announce a presidential bid Saturday and the former mayor of New York Michael Bloomberg who says that if he runs he’ll pay for his entire campaign by himself here in the US the family of an Arizona woman is dealing with a horrific situation the woman has been living in a long-term care facility since 1992 she is in a vegetative state and requires round-the-clock care but she suddenly went into labor last month and gave birth to a baby CNN’s Sarah Seidner has more from Phoenix Arizona there are stunning new details in this case a woman in a vegetative state becomes pregnant has a baby and it turns out we are now hearing the 911 the staff at the health care center that we have learned through court documents she has been in for some 27 years what we’re hearing on this 9-1-1 call gives a lot of details about what the staff did or did not know when it comes to this woman and her pregnancy what’s the emergency someone who’s had a baby one of the patients just had a baby and you had no idea she was pregnant okay is the baby baby’s turning blue we need someone now we get the baby the baby breathing the baby breathing baby’s not breathing baby is blue okay so are they doing CPR are they doing together doing CPR on the baby okay good just keep going with that and how’s the mom doing mom’s doing well it looks like she’s doing well oh we had no idea this person was pregnant we had no idea of this creation was pregnant okay I understand did they does she know how far along she was or anything we have no idea we this is a complete surprise we were not expecting this are you guys doing coke they want you to build a compression the baby’s breathing oh the baby breathing oh my god so you hear there a staffer at Hacienda health care saying she did not know this woman was pregnant the question is if that’s the case for all the people that were taking care of this woman in a vegetative state who came pregnant obviously she was raped and now police are calling this a sexual assault investigation there are a lot of questions here as to why this facility is not know that this woman was pregnant now we know that the baby did survive the mother and baby were in the hospital and they were recovering there in the hospital after you heard that distressing 911 we also know that that she got a woman’s wellness exam back in April of 2018 and had the baby on December 29th of 2018 so she would have been pregnant at the time she got that exam if she was going to full term which means that they must not have done any kind of pregnancy test at the time she was likely not showing but there is a big question as to how the staff did not realize that this woman in a vegetative state was actually pregnant and therefore maybe she didn’t get any prenatal care either a lot of questions and there are a lot of people who have patients that are still here at this facility haciendas health care who are worried about who may have done this was it a staffer was it a stranger was it a family member was it a visitor they simply don’t know and that’s what police are looking into they have already gotten a court order to get DNA samples from all the male staffers who work at the facility Sara ciders CNN Phoenix Wow we’ll be right back investigated by French judges for alleged corruption reports say the investigation that of sunna Kazu Takeda involves a suspicious payment of about two million dollars it occurred around the time Tokyo won its bid for the 2020 Summer Games Takeda denies any wrongdoing journalist journalist Kari and Joji is following the story live in Tokyo and Kairi what is the latest we’ve heard from mr. Takeda and where do things go from here well George Sena Casas Takeda is under formal investigation from French authorities which means that he could be implicated or they could drop the case so it could either go either way still in the French legal system we know that he is going to hold a news conference on Tuesday next Tuesday but he has already denied that he has done any wrongdoing or that the Japanese Olympic Committee was involved in any kind of corruption he says that he took part in a hearing last month in France involving a probe into Lamine DIAC who was a former IOC member and is waiting a trial in France his son is also under investigation from the French authorities but it seems to be an extension of an investigation that started two years ago more than two years ago in 2016 regarding payments the Japan made to a company in Singapore that had very close ties to the DIAC family the blogosphere is alight with comparisons and parallels with Carlos going who is of course the head of the Renault and Nissan Mitsubishi Alliance and is in jail in Japan has been in jail for the last seven weeks plus on financial wrongdoing allegations of financial wrongdoing both of them are luminaries in the field mr. Takeda is as blue bud blue blood as they come he’s the second cousin to the current Emperor he’s the great grandson of a former Emperor and he has been involved in the Olympic Severn since he himself was olympian back in the 1970s so but regardless of the parallels between him and Carlos goad one thing is for sure this is yet another controversy to dog the Japanese Olympic Committee there were concerns about the our negotiations with the architect late architect Zaha Hadid regarding the stadium it was blowing out of control and then there were plagiarism allegations about the mascot as well so it’s certainly casting a pall over Japan as they gear up for the preparations for the choke 2020 Olympics and to your point it is interesting to see these stories playing out concurrently people drawing similarities or looking at these similarities curry and Joe G thank you for the reporting we’re going to take you to Missouri next because look at this hundreds of cars and trucks stranded for hours as the winter storm pummeled the area and it’s moving east dirt van damme joins us with more about it [Music]

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