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thanks to at home for joining us this hour it was September 9th 1998 which was a Wednesday – vans – white vans pulled up to Capitol Hill and when Capitol Hill police officers opened up the back of the vans they started pulling up big banker sized file boxes and hauling them into the Gerald r for Gerald our Ford office building and that day that unexpected arrival of those vans containing all those big bankers boxes worth of files that is how America learned that Independent Counsel Ken Starr had finished his years long report on President Bill Clinton a Ken Starr had been appointed Independent Counsel to investigate the Whitewater real estate deal that to this day nobody understands ultimately though that investigation by Ken Starr morphed into an imposition of the president over his affair with a young White House intern named Monica Lewinsky but that four year-long investigation it ended with an exclamation point that Wednesday afternoon 1998 when without warning those vans pulled up and that’s how we learned hey here it is it’s done a 445 page long report from Ken Starr and his investigators typed bound and presented to Congress but those boxes and boxes and boxes pulled out of those vehicles they were not multiple copies of the 445 445 page long Ken Starr report what all of those boxes contained was the report but also all the accompanying evidence that went along with the report as well tonight the future of the Bill Clinton presidency is in a locked vault in a congressional office building the voluminous report of Independent Counsel Ken Starr transcripts depositions video and audio tapes Starr’s office says it all adds up to substantial and credible information that may support impeachment of the President of the United States the White House immediately deny that claim on Capitol Hill the Independent Counsel report arrived this afternoon 36 boxes two copies of each piece of evidence that could ultimately lead to impeachment hearings against the president after four and a half years of investigation it took two FBI vans to deliver the evidence 18 boxes of what Ken Starr and his prosecutors say is proof of possibly impeachable offenses by the president stars almost 500-page report grand jury transcripts the president’s videotaped testimony and more than 20 hours of audio tapes of Monica Lewinsky telling Linda Tripp lurid details of her relationship with the president all were delivered to Congress this afternoon with a copy for each political party star edge had no official light on the contents of the boxes they delivered into the hands of Capitol Police today but Tom House leaders will move quickly to move on that on the Starr report as much as they can so what got delivered that day I said it was white fans obviously it was a mix of white and black and maybe blue vans hard to tell anyway I stand corrected but anyway what all those vans brought up to Capitol Hill that day that Wednesday afternoon September at 1988 it was the star report itself which again more than 400 pages but then it was these 18 boxes of supporting evidence including everything from audio tapes to videotapes to transcripts of witness testimony before the grand jury they made two copies of all of that material so it’s 36 boxes and all 18 boxes of evidence they cot made a copy so they could give one complete set of evidence and one copy of the report to the Democrats and one complete set of evidence and one copy of the report to the Republicans and they hold all of that stuff up to Congress it’s all in a Wednesday afternoon you want to know when the public got the report Friday yeah I mean all the supporting evidence all the grand jury material that went only to Congress that didn’t get dispersed to the public but the report itself 445 pages it was in the public domain less than 48 hours after Ken Starr finished with it and submitted it I should say more or less 48 hours the way Congress chose to release that report to the public in September 1998 was by using a then quite newfangled machine called the Internet’s and in 1998 really nobody knew how to download anything a 400-plus page document that they didn’t break into smaller parts to make it an easier they unload that was basically an impossible Mount Everest of an online task for these slow dial-up modem speeds we had at the time but they did do their best to make it available to the public that Friday after they received it only two days before trying to post it online they crashed every server that they posted it on news organizations ultimately did get their hands on the Starr report they distributed as best that they could I remember also the Starr report was very quickly published as a pulpy paperback that is how I read it at the time I remember and then I showered but the the legacy there the precedent there is that that report on that presidential scandal it was turned around to the public within two days of it being completed and submitted and there was of course immense public interest in that report tens of millions of Americans had reportedly read that thing within a couple days of it being released but that is apparently nowhere near what we are doing this time with this report on this scandal involving this president it has now been six days since the special counsels report from Robert Muller was completed and submitted and this time the Trump administration appears to be in no rush whatsoever to provide anyone access to it I mean forget the public they’re not even letting Congress see it after releasing a less than four-page document from Trump’s newly appointed attorney general which provides a largely but vaguely exculpatory summary he says our Robert Muller’s findings I mean now nearly a week after molars actual report was completed the actual molar report remains totally unseen and given the historical precedent for how things like this have been handled in the past given the intense public interest in this matter given the strangely vague nonspecific but definitely supposed to be exculpatory summary that we’ve been asked to swallow by this administration by a trump appointee I mean this effort by them to keep the actual molar report completely under wraps I guess indefinitely well as of today it is showing its first cracks today for example we got the first credible reports about the rough size the molar report might be now you know if you squinted it from a distance or if you maybe weren’t wearing your glasses but you could get up close could you tell the general size of it the New York Times was first on the spot the size of the molar report story today but over the course of the day we got a bunch of different sources and leaks saying molars report is multiple hundreds of pages long ultimately a Justice Department spokesperson did confirm in the most general terms that yes okay in fact we can confirm molars report is over 300 pages so that’s your range minimum number of pages is 301 maximum number of pages is infinity so so somewhere in there and that of course even that tells us nothing about the content of the report it doesn’t even really tell us the minimum length of it right the pages could be the size of a postage stamp or the size of a bedsheet the print could be like a billboard or it could be like inscribed on the head of a pin I don’t know it’s a minimum of 301 pages is that double-sided single spaced I don’t know we don’t know we know nothing about it but with a Justice Department spokesperson confirming this one barely useful metric about the actual molar report even that just puts a brighter spotlight on the fact that they are trying to keep this thing secret from everybody I mean if they’re now confirming the things over 300 pages long again that doesn’t tell us anything about what’s in it but it does raise further questions about why thus far we are only allowed to see the less than 50 words of it that were quoted in William Bars statement about it which is nuts right I mean on what basis has he selected those 42 words as the only ones we are allowed to see indefinitely also Congress those are the only words in the malaria part they’re allowed to see I mean especially since the one statement William bar quoted from Muller that the White House and the conservative media are coming apart at the seams over right they’re so excited it’s the grounds on which they’re declaring this whole scandal to be over and settled and the president to be heroically exonerated that one quote from Muller that appeared in bars letter it’s not even a full sentence you notice that right I mean in in bars report this is what they’re all so excited about that line that he quotes from Muller quote the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired are coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities but look at the first letter of the quote they had to put the first letter in brackets in order to make it a capital letter in order to make it look like that was the start of a sentence and that is a complete sentence but the brackets mean there isn’t actually a capital letter there which means that isn’t where the sentence starts which means this statement about there being no criminal conspiracy established by the investigation that’s the back half of a sentence that starts some other way but we’re not allowed to know how that sentence starts we’re not allowed to know what else is in that sentence I mean literally at this point on the right and in the Republican Party they’re hanging the entire Trump presidency on that fragment of that sentence and not letting us see what else is in that sentence why is that why do we still only have william bars statement about what molar found instead of anything at all from more I have said and I’ll say again no thank you mr. Attorney General we do not need your interpretation show us show us the report and we can draw our own conclusions we don’t need you interpreting for us that was condescending it was arrogant and it wasn’t the right thing to do and then you should still be full steam ahead on the issue of collusion or given the discrepancy between the Muller report and bar summary should the focusing mostly on obstruction of justice how can I just say this more clearly show us as a report show us the report Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters today and getting getting more and more blunt about it with each passing phrase to the point where at the end she’s like show us the report this is not that hard this is not that complicated I can’t say this any more clearly so what’s the thing I mean it is it is amazing that as of tomorrow we will be a week into the existence of the completed mullet report and they’re still sitting on it still trying not to release it not to release any of it Democratic congressional staffers today started circulating lists of previous reports into presidents scandals and executive branch scandals and how long how the dispensation of those reports had been handled on Capitol Hill and in terms of public access the last time there was a special council which is what robert muller is that was john danforth’s report about the Branch Davidian standoff at Waco his report was released publicly before that it was independent counsel Ken Starr his report was provided in full to the house on a Wednesday afternoon it was then released to the public on a Friday morning even as the grand jury material and the underlying evidence was held just within Congress and not released to the public the public got the report Congress got old the underlying evidence and it happened zip zip before that it was the Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh and his report about Oliver North and the iran-contra scandal that was released fully to the public even some lesser known ones there was an independent counsel who looked into then HUD secretary Henry Cisneros that was released fully to Congress and then released with very limited reactions to the public there was an Independent Counsel report into an agriculture secretary named Mike SP that was released fully to the public it’s just the Mullah report they want to sit on this isn’t how things like this have previously been handled but for this one we’re heading tomorrow it’ll be a week and we still have been seen we haven’t seen any of it a few days ago here on the show we talked about the precedent of the Watergate report that came to be known as the roadmap to Nixon’s impeachment this was a document that was drawn up by Watergate special prosecutor Leon Jaworski and the grand jury in Washington that he had convened to hear evidence in the Watergate scandal and this one was a little bit of a special case this was purely grand jury information right and a federal judge signed off on that grand jury conveying the information they had collected about the president directly to Congress in a confidential manner so Congress could look at that grand jury information and consider what it meant in terms of drawing up potential articles of impeachment against Nixon now that one it took us the public a very long time to get access to that sixty-two page stack of grand jury material which ultimately did form the basis of the impeachment articles against Nixon but honestly the president still stands here because that information on Nixon that wasn’t kept secret and put in a vault inside Nixon’s Justice Department where only his appointees were allowed to look at it and not show anybody else which is what we’ve got right now I mean that that Leon Jaworski grand jury Watergate roadmap against Nixon that was conveyed to Congress as soon as the grand jury assembled it they asked the judges permission we would like to give this to Congress your honor the judge said yes it went to Congress that day in this case we’re not getting the Moller report but Congress isn’t getting it either only Trump appointees get to see it and they assure us it’s all good news for the president don’t worry your pretty little heads about it we’ll just keep this right here to ourselves NBC News today had some interesting reporting on Democrats plans not just to try to obtain whatever version of the Moller report Trump’s Attorney General wants to allow them to see they plan in addition to try to obtain both the mobile report and any grand jury information that William bar says he plans to try to cut out of it also as in the case of the Star report they say they want all of the underlying evidence that led to molars findings they want vans pulling up on Capitol Hill unloading boxes of evidence for them to look at their now citing that precedent of Leon Jaworski and the Watergate grand jury of 1974 apparently congressional Democrats say they believe they can bypass Trump’s Justice Department and William Barr they can bypass them altogether and go directly to the courts as Jaworski and his grand jury did in 1974 to get a federal judge to clear the release of grand jury materials directly to the House Judiciary Committee so that committee can on behalf of Congress assess the president’s behavior as a co-equal branch of government and think about where this is going now I mean if if Trump’s Justice Department continues to try to keep the molar reports secret and if they try to keep grand jury information from that report and the underlying evidence for that reports secret and the Democrats in Congress are going to go not just to fight the Justice Department about this they’re going to go to the courts directly to go around the Justice Department to get that material this is gonna be a rip-roaring fight about whether and when we get to see this stuff and whether and when Congress gets to see it too and meanwhile Democrats are not playing along with the White House effort and the effort in the conservative media to declare this whole thing over based on one sentence fragment about the president and Russia and one full sentence that bar quoted about obstruction of justice a full sentence incidentally in which Robert Miller says the president is not exonerated on obstruction of justice today the House Intelligence Committee convened an open hearing on Russian intelligence and Russian influence operations around the world and how those things work House Republicans at the outset tried to sort of hijack the hearing to declare the Russia scandal over to declare the president totally exonerated and in so doing they decided to declare that they were demanding the resignation of intelligence chairman Adam Schiff for him having the temerity to investigate this matter and I’m guessing because they have all been watching conservative media and listening to White House statements on this issue I am guessing those Republican members of Congress thought that this would be a big triumphant moment for the I think they thought they were gonna score big with their chest pounding demand today that Adam Schiff had to resign from the committee because obviously the Russia stuff is all fine it’s all been cleared up everything’s good that’s what they’ve been hearing from the White House and from the conservative media because that’s what they have been hearing I am quite sure they were not expecting what they actually got from Adam Schiff in response and part of the way you can tell is how absolutely flibberty gibberty flabbergasted they were by the end of what Adam Schiff said you you might have seen some of Adams chef’s remarks today you might have seen coverage that this sort of remarkable moment happened in Congress today but I you may not have seen how Republicans responded at the end it was just incredible there’s actually two things no there’s three things to watch here first watch what shift says which is sort of stunning this riff right to watch how the people around him at that moment respond including like his fellow Democrats at one at one point you’ll see valve Demings who’s a Democrat on the committee sitting near him in the room and watch to see how she reacts to what is erupting from Adam Schiff in this hearing room today but then the third thing which you really have to see is just watch the Republicans just completely bamboozled and upset and sputtering with what he serves up to them they can’t believe he’s saying this stuff and gosh when you put it that way it sounds terrible and that’s not what we mean that’s you stop talking about it like that oh geez I mean this was just a signal moment I think in this whole two-year long saga this was this is incredible just sit down and watch this we have no faith in your ability to discharge your duties and a commander consistent with your constitutional responsibilities and urge your immediate resignation as chairman of the committee mr. chairman this letter is signed by all nine members of the Republican side of the house but the committee and I asked you to sit there be edited in the record of today’s hearing hey you’re back without objection I’m gonna turn to our witnesses who are the separately hearing today but before I do and as it as you have chosen instead of dressing the hearing to simply attacked me consistent with the president’s attacks I do want to respond in this way my colleagues may think it’s okay that the Russians offered dirt on a Democratic candidate for president as part of what was described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign you might think that’s okay my colleagues might think it’s okay that when that was offered to the son of the president who had a pivotal role in the campaign that the president’s son did not call the FBI he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help no instead that son said that he would love the help of the Russians you might think it’s okay that he took that meeting you might think it’s okay that Paul man afford the campaign shares someone with great experience of running campaigns also took that meeting you might think it’s okay that the president’s son-in-law also took that meeting you might think it’s okay that they concealed it from the public you might think it’s okay that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn’t better you might think that’s okay you might think it’s okay that when it was discovered a year later that didn’t lied about that meeting and said it was about adoptions you might think it’s okay that the president is reported to have helped dictate that lie you might think that’s okay I don’t you might think it’s okay that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness you might think that’s okay I don’t you might think it’s okay that that campaign chairman offered polling data campaign polling data to someone linked to Russian intelligence I don’t think that’s okay you might think it’s okay that the President himself called on Russia to hack his opponents emails if they were listening you might think it’s okay that later that day in fact the Russians attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign I don’t think that’s okay you might think that it’s okay that the president’s son-in-law sought to establish a secret back channel of communications with the Russians to a Russian diplomatic facility I don’t think that’s okay you might think it’s okay that an associate of the president made direct contact with the GRU through gusoff or – and WikiLeaks and considered that is considered a hostile intelligence agency you might think that it’s okay a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent you might think it’s okay that the National Security Advisor designate secretly conferred with a Russian ambassador about undermining US sanctions and you might think it’s okay he lied about it to the FBI you might say that’s all okay you might say that’s just what you need to do to win but I don’t think it’s okay I think it’s immoral I think it’s unethical I think it’s unpatriotic and yes I think it’s corrupt and evidence of collusion now I have always said that the question of whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter whether the Special Counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt the proof of that crime would be up to the special counsel and I would accept his decision and I do he’s a good and honorable man and he is a good prosecutor but I do not think that conduct criminal or not is okay and the day we do think that’s okay is the day we will look back and say that is the day America lost its way and I will tell you one more thing that is apropos of the hearing today I don’t think it’s okay that during a presidential campaign mr. Trump sought the Kermit’s help to consummate a real estate deal in Moscow that would make him a fortune according to special counsel hundreds of millions of dollars I don’t think it’s okay that he concealed it from the public I don’t think it’s okay that he advocated a new and more favorable policy towards the Russians even as he was seeking the Russians helped the Kremlin’s helped to make money I don’t think it’s okay that his attorney lied to our committee there’s a different word for that than collusion and it’s called compromise and that is the subject of our hearing today well the gentleman mr. ambassador general recognized for your opening I will not yield mr. ambassador you can yield because you’ll smell all of us that I will say we think you ought to allow us to speak of what you use your five minutes to speak you attacked me in your opening statement and I have not had an opportunity respond at all especially to your statements of what we think because no one over here thinks that no one over here mr. nee are not recognized ambassador McFaul you recognized and thus began the hearing on how Russia uses its various points of leverage to compromise people around the globe including potentially people in our own government the gentleman will not yield and until the Moller report actually gets released any of it I don’t think anybody should expect him to yield not an inch stay with us hey there I’m Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on youtube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we’re putting out you can click subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos

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